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Cliff HiltyReply: posted - 9 March 2010 12:11
That even includes soaring milestones in the US. When I got my 1000k diplome 2 years ago in Ely, Judy Rupert sent me a congratulatory note and a application to apply to get it homulagated internationlly. It would have cost me over $300.00 just to have them give me a international number and peice of paper. I said screw it and bought the custom AZ license plate instead for $25 a year :)

It begs the question of "buying" the records for sure. Even the badge process leaves a lot to be desired. Year before last I had a local Prescott club member interested in getting his silver badge in his 1-26. He made several attempts with a landout before completing. All of this after spending $500 on a used ew microrecorder and 50 on calibration, only to be denied because we changed the declaration on the grid to a spot a couple of miles at a right angle to the flight path to keep him up on the ridge for lift purposes and the electronic declaration differed from the written one and was the last one before the flight. Without a computer at the glider port we couldn't change the electronic declartion. We thought that the written one and the observers statement would have been enough. He actually flew over 70 miles out and return.
That put enough of a bad taste in his mouth not to attempt other badge flights, "its just not worth the effort"!

Its a shame that what we are measuring in a badge or record flight is 20% flying capability and 80% clerical/technical/technicality/ issues! At least the insanity is dramatically reduced in contest flying, atleast in the ASA racing series :)

Steve KoernerReply: posted - 9 March 2010 9:31
What I find highly objectionable, as I believe others do as well, is that you have to buy and renew a "license" every year from the NAA in order to have a national record homulgated. The license has to be paid up at the time of the flight. I didn't set any records last year but I had to pay for a license just to try. That's in addition to the substantial fee that is charged to actually process a record claim that succeeds.

It used to be that SSA paid an annual fee to NAA for automatic record licenses for all SSA members. When SSA finances went into crisis a few years ago SSA stopped paying the negotiated across-the-board fee leaving us with a sucky system which excludes most everyone except a few die-hards from working on national and international records.

Bob ThompsonStart of thread: posted - 9 March 2010 8:48
I'm on Tom Knauff's e-mail list, and got an interesting note from him this morning, commenting on record flights, which could be of interest to anyone in our organization, or anyone else for that matter, who has any intentions of records:

"Doris and I are attending The Seniors in Florida.

I had my data logger recalibrated, and one of the premier world record holders asked my why?

Several world record holders were present and they all said they no longer claim any records because of the outrageous nature of the record claim process and expenses charged by the various record keeping organizations.

It is nearly a year since I made a national record claim with no approval or disapproval.

The conversation led to the idea that the OLC could manage and list flights that exceed current records - national, or world, and simply forget the current onerous process."